and but speaker boehner hasn't said that. and so we democrats realize that there has to be two sides of the bargain but we're not going back to 2011, putting revenues and cuts on the table and ended up with the cuts because the other side didn't accept the revenue. >> speaker boehner has yet to sit down with president obama or treasury secretary geithner. boehner said he would accept new revenue but the president insists there's no deal without higher tax rates on the wealthy. in his radio address yesterday he said he's willing to work with republicans to hammer out a plan he says would give both sides some of what they want. meantime, of course, the clock is ticking. >> it is, we're watching, steve. thank you very much. >>> much of the conversation in washington regarding the fiscal cliff is focused on tax rates or how the federal government can bring in more revenue from you. what about the other side of the equation? cutting back on spending and borrowing. steve moore joins us to talk about that and separate fact from fict